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Zitat von marci

it's the vorlaufer of Wagner 14 !!
if I remember well it's a little faster and bigger.

es ist der Vorlaufer von Wagner 14!
Ich erinnere mich gut, wenn es ein wenig schneller und größer.

Zitat von marci

Rolls Royce has also a different colour from all series of Wagner 14 ( light brown instead of brown-red ).
I have both balls and they have different colour , size and jump.
the vorlaufer " roter hund " is another ball with a red colour and also a lower weight.

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